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Post by aael on Sept 3, 2017 12:03:33 GMT
Hi beginner here.Just wanted to ask why ppl don't use blacksmith's workshop on low res maps they are buying swords? I'm. trying to learn from videos so I'm curios about this I think it's better to make 4 armor 2 blacksmith's workshop than buying swords.
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Post by Destiny on Sept 3, 2017 14:41:47 GMT
blacksmiths are really good on high res maps.
but on low res maps, its better to buy swords.
or maybe, if u only play 20 or 40 knights max, maybe...
but then , for 2 irons map, it should be more like 4 armor/ 3 blacksmith.
if someone have better suggestion...
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Post by MostWanted on Sept 3, 2017 17:29:26 GMT
Hi beginner here.Just wanted to ask why ppl don't use blacksmith's workshop on low res maps they are buying swords? I'm. trying to learn from videos so I'm curios about this I think it's better to make 4 armor 2 blacksmith's workshop than buying swords. Because people tend to make 100+ knights and even with 6 armor they still buy armor... but yes, if you play 20-40 knights, then its good to use blacksmith. Also they are more expensive (200gold) which makes armour better in short term |
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Post by aael on Sept 3, 2017 18:11:43 GMT
Hi beginner here.Just wanted to ask why ppl don't use blacksmith's workshop on low res maps they are buying swords? I'm. trying to learn from videos so I'm curios about this I think it's better to make 4 armor 2 blacksmith's workshop than buying swords. Because people tend to make 100+ knights and even with 6 armor they still buy armor... but yes, if you play 20-40 knights, then its good to use blacksmith. Also they are more expensive (200gold) which makes armour better in short term WoW 100+knights need to learn to get better economy then... Alright tnx for the advice guys  |
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Post by *KoRT*Arthur on Sept 3, 2017 18:38:56 GMT
If i can say, my opinion: If game on map with 2 iron only and if opponent use only knights-knights-knights - you can use knights too by way: add also 2-3 blacksmith workshops, buy 10 iron from time to time for 450 gold, make from them 15 swords (buy 15 swords for 870 money = not so good). But if opponent knows how to use other kind of troops and siege weapons, way: buy iron for massive knights, you will lost gold in short period, may be will lose game.
To make maximally effect from manufacturing weapons - delete some places of stockpile (better delete 1-2 first of them) and keep 3-4, in free place add 2 workshops.
P.S.: economy = not only workshops (and of course not only quantity of them).
2 comments up = good thinking.
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Post by aael on Sept 3, 2017 19:40:46 GMT
If i can say, my opinion: If game on map with 2 iron only and if opponent use only knights-knights-knights - you can use knights too by way: add also 2-3 blacksmith workshops, buy 10 iron from time to time for 450 gold, make from them 15 swords (buy 15 swords for 870 money = not so good). But if opponent knows how to use other kind of troops and siege weapons, way: buy iron for massive knights, you will lost gold in short period, may be will lose game. To make maximally effect from manufacturing weapons - delete some places of stockpile (better delete 1-2 first of them) and keep 3-4, in free place add 2 workshops. P.S.: economy = not only workshops (and of course not only quantity of them). 2 comments up = good thinking. Ty y i know economy is not just workshops still need to improve speed to get 300+ 400 pop i usually go for +8 ale -6 tax or -2 tax -4 food depends and if i have fear facor +4,5 much better but this thing with buying iron or weps always fucks me up xD anyway tnx for advice |
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Post by MostWanted on Sept 3, 2017 20:21:21 GMT
If i can say, my opinion: If game on map with 2 iron only and if opponent use only knights-knights-knights - you can use knights too by way: add also 2-3 blacksmith workshops, buy 10 iron from time to time for 450 gold, make from them 15 swords (buy 15 swords for 870 money = not so good). But if opponent knows how to use other kind of troops and siege weapons, way: buy iron for massive knights, you will lost gold in short period, may be will lose game. To make maximally effect from manufacturing weapons - delete some places of stockpile (better delete 1-2 first of them) and keep 3-4, in free place add 2 workshops. P.S.: economy = not only workshops (and of course not only quantity of them). 2 comments up = good thinking. Buying IRON works ONLY during PT time. Later when you have to make ff+, it will not work. |
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Post by Destiny on Sept 3, 2017 21:37:55 GMT
not sure about this last point. fear factor or not; you buy wood to sell x-bows,so why not buy iron to sell armors ? I will check by myself  |
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Post by aael on Sept 3, 2017 22:51:19 GMT
Just one more question not related to this topic... Is there some way to set no rush when playing against AI want to polish my skills a little ? |
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Post by MostWanted on Sept 4, 2017 6:08:36 GMT
I know what you mean but please don't "polish" your skills, and what I mean is, don't start playing like polish players.
Just kidding... No, but if you really want it, ask someone to go game vs you, then he leave and you play vs bots.
Wood production is super productive even when you want to sell weapons.
Even without ff+, it is not good to buy iron if you will sell armour.
5 iron = 225 gold i think
Selling 5 armour weapons = about 180gold
See? Even without ff+ its very shitty to buy iron and sell weapons. We only buy it if we want to USE weapons because thats efficient.
5 iron = 225 gold
5 armor to BUY = 290gold
So if you buy Iron, you save 65 gold on each 5 weapons.
When you make ff+, then it becomes less productive, so you actually for 5 iron get 4 armor, which you can sell for about 230gold, so its nonsense... You get 5 gold per 5 weapons if I am right, or even less.
Wood is other story, wood is very productive and highly economical, you buy 5 wood for 20 gold only and get about 3 x-bows that are 5 times more worth... So even with ff+, it's still productive.
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Post by Destiny on Sept 4, 2017 8:55:13 GMT
Just one more question not related to this topic... Is there some way to set no rush when playing against AI want to polish my skills a little ? put an AI on hill, gamespeed 50 and so u can polish ur economy, remember date of norush. end of 10pt, january 1184 end of 5pt, october 1182 |
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Post by •{»X&L«}• PredatoR • on Sept 14, 2017 7:17:31 GMT
My opinion ,maps with 2 irons efficient for 4 or 5 armor's workshop no more ,anyway I can't buy 10 iron = 225 gold and at least 4 blacksmith's workshop =800 gold in the beginning of the game !!!!!!!!!!!!! (because I need more gold to buy wood and make my pop and eco . I think 400 pop and -24 in oct,1183 will make efficient gold to buy everything like 60 knights without any problems like fear factor or workers not work etc  |
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